Bill's Notes

[Industrialblog, September 15, 2004]
OK, I'll weigh in seriously about CBS ...
Television is entertainment. It is not news. It is not journalism. It is designed to generate powerful emotional reactions that will keep you watching [usually self-righteous anger].

Words, sound and images are presented in ways that are enormously manipulative. Strong emotional reactions generate strong viewership, and that means strong ratings. At the same time, television has a trivializing tendency, reducing serious subjects to, again, entertainment.

CBS is at the forefront of the pretense that it is a serious news-gathering operation: It isn't, and it hasn't been for a long, long time. If you get your news from CBS, you're going to be manipulated.

So CBS doesn't have much credibility to lose, IMHO.

I know the bloggers are enjoying their first real ass-kicking of a network — and yes, network television deserves the boots tromping over its ass — so I'm not raining on anyone's parade. In fact, it's long, long overdue. Good for INDC, Instapundit, and the rest of the right-wing conspiracy.

It's not just a question of bias. There is more than liberal bias, there is media bias — the bias that gets woven deep within the medium through story selection and story construction. It's a topic for another day. But just say the rules of selecting and producing stories for the television marketplace makes requirements on producers to present facts in ways that aren't always justified.

Anyway, Dan Rather, credible? Well, OK, a little. The guy really said, "Kenneth, What's the frequency?" But no, Rather and CBS don't have a lot of credibility to trade. Their credibility is like a house of cards about to collapse. Or a rotting corpse poked with a stick, that disintegrates while snakes and maggots scurry for a new corpse in which to hide.

Not that I've got anything against television news. But my two months of insight into a television network foreign bureau many years ago left me a bit jaded. Truth was irrelevant. Organizational priorities mattered. No one cared. If on camera you can stand in front of Manila Bay and say you're in Subic Bay, what else are you willing to lie about while you're on camera?

So yeah, CBS didn't realize the world had changed and they could no longer bullshit the viewers thanks to the blogosphere. My hope is this will keep them on their toes a bit better.

But you know CBS isn't any worse than NBC, ABC, CNN or BBC.



Chris (mail) (www):
Hey! that's the vast right-wing conspiracy. Get your facts straight!

:-)
9.15.2004 11:43pm
Chris (mail) (www):
"But you know CBS isn't any worse than NBC, ABC, CNN or BBC."

Of course not. They're just the first up against the wall.

The hope, I believe, is that the revolution is here and they won't be the last against the wall.
9.15.2004 11:45pm
Bill (mail) (www):
Heh. The revolution, eh? And it's being blogged, not televised.
9.15.2004 11:46pm
Harry (mail) (www):
And because CBS didn't do very thorough fact-checking job, trusted somebody else on the authenticity of documents, and ignored any warnings to the contrary, the U.S. became engaged in a prolonged and arguably unnecessary war that has claimed the lives of over 1000 of our sericemen and women and caused untold civilian casualties.

Oh, wait, that was the CIA, not CBS. Sorry.

(And yes, "arguably" is arguably one of the greatest weasel words ever.)
9.21.2004 8:22am
Bill (mail) (www):
OK, Harry. You're right. These cases are exactly analogous.

What's in the kool-aid you're drinking :)?
9.21.2004 8:32am
Harry (mail) (www):
Hmmm, unless you're applying some sort of Bible Code analysis to my statement, I never said that those two incidents were exactly analogous. The whole Yellowcake/British Intelligence/Joe Wilson finds documents are forgeries/State of the Union/false pretext for war/Joe Wilson's wife outed by Robert Novak situation was a lot more serious. And the U.S. Government had a lot mor resources to put into investigating this issue, and a much greater moral responsibility to make sure they got it right. And they didn't. And CBS is being held to a higher standard. Did any of the folks calling for Dan Rather's head on a platter call for Dubya's resignation?

And what's this about "kool-aid"? I thought ad hominem arguments were off-limits. Implying that someone's opinion is drug-induced is a pretty clear-cut case. Or are you just parroting a popular phrase that's making the rounds?
9.22.2004 8:16am
Harry (mail) (www):
Should read "more", not "mor"
9.22.2004 8:18am
Harry (mail) (www):
Goodness me. Here's some news from Newsweek...


The Story That Didn’t Run
Here’s the piece that ‘60 Minutes’ killed for its report on the Bush Guard documents

By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 5:24 p.m. ET Sept. 22, 2004
Sept. 22 - In its rush to air its now discredited story about President George W. Bush’s National Guard service, CBS bumped another sensitive piece slated for the same “60 Minutes” broadcast: a half-hour segment about how the U.S. government was snookered by forged documents purporting to show Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium from Niger...
9.23.2004 8:19am
Bill (mail) (www):
Question, Harry: Was the U.S. Government snookered by documents forged in Microsoft Word that were supposed to have been typed in the early 1970s? That is, were they screamingly, painfully obvious forgeries that took bloggers less than one hour to debunk?

Goodness, no. The French -- shock! -- may have been behind the whole thing and done a decent job.
9.23.2004 9:28am
Harry (mail) (www):
In answer to your first question, the answer is "Yes". These documents were presented to the White House prior to their release, and no claim of forgery was made at that time.


CBS reported Wednesday night that it had obtained personal files from one of Bush’s Texas commanders saying Bush discussed with him how to avoid drills during 1972. The report on “60 Minutes” said the files were from the personal records of Col. Jerry Killian, who died in 1984.

After the broadcast, the White House, without comment, released to the news media two of the memos, one ordering Bush to report for his physical exam and the other suspending him from flight status.



Why would the White House release to the media, without comment, documents it believed to be (screamingly, painfully obvious) forgeries?

And should we be very frightened over having actually lost an intelligence battle with the French - if indeed they hoodwinked us with excellent forgeries?
9.23.2004 10:31pm
Bill (mail) (www):
Huh? Harry, what the hell are you talking about?

The White House didn't release the forgeries.
9.23.2004 10:39pm
Harry (mail) (www):
Yes they did. Read here.

Press Gaggle by Scott McClellan
(White House Press Secretary)
September 10, 2004


Q Two questions. Does the White House regret handing out those documents, taking CBS's word on their authenticity, without checking them, themselves?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, we — you know, we released all the President's personnel — or made available publicly all the President's personnel, medical and payroll files in their entirety. The Department of Defense has continued to go back and look for additional documents that weren't in those files.

It was an issue of openness. CBS provided us with those documents and —

Q Did you ask —

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, we did ask, and CBS did not disclose to us, either, where they obtained those documents from. We wanted to be open about it, so we provided that information, as we have other documents to the media.

Q Were you duped, do you think?

MR. McCLELLAN: Bill, that's assuming a lot of things. Like I said, we don't know whether the documents were fabricated or authentic.


I guess the forgeries weren't screamingly obvious enough for the White House.
9.23.2004 10:45pm
Harry (mail) (www):
Dammit, the url didn't link. The source is here. Or is this a clever forgery created by someone who hacked into the White House website?
9.23.2004 10:47pm
Bill (mail) (www):
Harry, they commented on the forgeries, they didn't release them.

And let me get this straight. You are actually arguing against the one hour it took the blogosphere to debunk these forgeries -- that is, you are arguing against what actually occurred ...

OK, Harry.
9.23.2004 10:50pm
Harry (mail) (www):
Bill, did you read the press briefing? CBS "broke" the "story". But the White House also "handed out" the documents, without saying "these are possibly forgeries, and we're gonna look into it some more, even though anybody can immediately see that they really are forgeries." Or are you saying that Scott McClellan didn't say the things he said he said?

Perhaps you're using a different definition of "release" than me.
9.23.2004 10:56pm
Bill (mail) (www):
Oh, okay. It took me a while to get that the two documents mentioned in the MSNBC story were the same as the CBS docs. That wasn't clear. So sorry about that.

What's frustrating, though, is to be discussing this at all. There are a half dozen reasons why the White House might have handed out the documents -- and yes, it looks like they were fooled temporarily by the screamingly obvious forgeries. That happens to busy people when they have to react to frauds passed under their noses.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the documents didn't fool the public for an hour -- so yes, that's a screamingly obvious forgery. The White House probably would've caught it if it had time to investigate -- but remember, it had to react immediately. Even screamingly obvious forgeries take a few news cycles to authoritatively debunk, Harry. They decided to play it straight until then.
9.23.2004 11:14pm
Harry (mail) (www):
And again, unless you're using some weird linguistic analysis tool to deconstruct my statements into something other than what I am saying, I am not saying anything about the "one hour" issue. But you can get some other people's comments on it here.
9.23.2004 11:17pm

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